# Conventions Call September 12th 2024 - Standards, design patterns, & discussion of OAGI tooling

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**Created:** [September 12, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/conventions-call-september-12th-2024-standards-design-patterns-discussion-of-oagi-tooling/2116 "2024-09-12T18:16:01Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/conventions-call-september-12th-2024-standards-design-patterns-discussion-of-oagi-tooling/2116/1 "2024-09-12T18:16:01Z")

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_Greg, Vic, Rose, Juliet_

- Greg made [must](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Must)? Quick fermentation of grapes into sparkling juice? Rose is also a fermentation guy.
- Potential for Plans to play a bigger role in PODS / CCD work, since we’ll need to reference conservation plans within the data structure itself -
  - R & J back-and-forth on cost convention structure - [mapped in miro here](https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVKqchGq4=/)
  - [The Thing that Mike Built](https://gist.github.com/mstenta/6a6b6018011260738bb5514c6dfcb866)
  - [Greg’s issue about it](https://gitlab.com/our-sci/conventions/conventions-under-development/-/blob/main/cost,%20energy,%20labor.md?ref_type=heads)
  - We need to be making design decisions, publicly facing, & iterate on it – for a cost convention, energy convention, and labor convention. Greg - nearly everyone will need these, or they can ignore them, but I would like them in the base convention
    - ‘Everything and the kitchen sink’ in the base convention and everyone makes their own vs making a very simple, basic form that everyone adds to. The first allows for everyone to pick what they want, but the domain is restricted. The second necessarily means people create non-compatible conventions for the same thing.

  - Rose: “Now that I understand…we should be describing the conventions differently.” and then we all had a big laugh.
    - More focus on the pattern/template aspect
    - Idea: you use our tooling to get you from farmOS to the design patterns under the ‘big tent’ your organization needs
      - Then use something like [OAGI ConnectCenter](https://oagi.org/pages/connectcenter) to define - and then the UI requires you to be compliant, and NRCS researchers ‘can do this all day long and nothing bad happens’
      - Jim Wilson from OAGI - Standards expert, making opensource product for convention management, ConnectCenter, which gives you a graphical UI into a standard. You set up your big data model, and then people can view it. Both bounds & visualizes your data model, with their experience over 20 years of building collaborative standards.
        - Includes processes for e.g. requesting a new attribute
        - Allows for input in json schema and output in multiple formats (csv, xml etc)
        - Committee that meets weekly and tells you why they’re not going to add your thing

    - Really want to connect him & Juliet because shares so much process-wise with what has happened thru Cover Crop Council