# Financial / Accounting Software to pair with FarmOS? **URL:** \ **Category:** Using farmOS\ **Created:** [March 16, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716 "2021-03-16T03:37:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Daniel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/farmos.discourse.group/daniel/32/399_2.png) [@Daniel](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/Daniel)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/1 "2021-03-16T03:37:00Z")
I am looking for recommendations, has anyone found good financial / accounting solutions that pair well with FarmOS to track operational and capital expenses and income? Are folks tracking it right in the inventory mechanism of FarmOS are are their other apps that pair well? I see there is an [active discussion on eCommerce integration](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/ecommerce-integration/57) but that seems to be more on the inventory side and I’m curious for recommendations on the $ side. Thanks in advance for any tips. ---
**Author:** ![Lars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lars](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/Lars)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/2 "2021-03-16T08:27:27Z")
I would also be interested in a open source software that does that. For about a year I tracked everything in FarmOS but have since gone back to an Excel sheet. Its more flexible and can be used for tax calculations as well. ---
**Author:** ![shane\_aldrich](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/farmos.discourse.group/shane_aldrich/32/397_2.png) [@shane\_aldrich](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/shane_aldrich)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/3 "2021-03-17T01:15:27Z")
Not sure if this would work, but [GnuCash](https://gnucash.org/) might be a good solution to start. ---
**Author:** ![mstenta](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/farmos.discourse.group/mstenta/32/4_2.png) [@mstenta](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/mstenta)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/4 "2021-03-17T13:42:50Z")
I use GnuCash for my own bookkeeping and like it a lot (but not connected to farmOS). In fact, before farmOS I started a project called [Ledger](https://www.drupal.org/project/ledger), which aimed to be a GnuCash clone for Drupal. farmOS’s log-based architecture is very much inspired by double-entry bookkeeping. And my long term vision was to eventually include Ledger in farmOS to serve the “bookkeeping” side of things. I’d still love to see that happen, but it has fallen very far down the priority list. Maybe someday… 🙂 (Here’s the _old_ issue I created for that: [https://www.drupal.org/project/farm/issues/2622552](https://www.drupal.org/project/farm/issues/2622552)) In my mind, farmOS’s long-term trajectory is to eventually include “bookkeeping” alongside the existing “recordkeeping”. And in practice this may mean simply integrating with other software like GnuCash/Quickbooks. But either way, we do need to have some data architecture in farmOS itself to connect things up. We took a very simple first step in 2017(ish?) by adding Sale and Purchase logs (available in the “Farm Ledger” module in farmOS 1.x). But ultimately, I think all Log types should have the ability to store value information - so that you can truly track costs in a granular way (and therefore relate them back to the assets they reference). Related to this is time tracking: [Additional log "time" features - any interest?](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/additional-log-time-features-any-interest/519) Logs can already have “Quantities” associated with them, which can be used to record “Time” and “Value” measurements. But this is still pretty low-level, and there isn’t any supporting UI/UX code to standardize how it is used. Ultimately we need to develop some agreed-upon conventions ([Creating a standard 'interpretation' layer on top of core farmOS schema](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/creating-a-standard-interpretation-layer-on-top-of-core-farmos-schema/533)). We are in the process of adding two new Quantity types to farmOS 2.x to help with this: - Price quantities: [https://www.drupal.org/project/farm/issues/3196836](https://www.drupal.org/project/farm/issues/3196836) - Time quantities: [https://www.drupal.org/project/farm/issues/3196844](https://www.drupal.org/project/farm/issues/3196844) Hope that all provides some context. I’m excited to see the financial side of things develop in farmOS. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lars](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/Lars)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/5 "2021-03-19T23:37:22Z")
Gnu Cash looks interesting but its missing inventory side of a farm business, which would be created from the harvest logs of farmOS. The integration/ of GnuCash or something similar would be very helpful but lets see how the financial side of farmOS will develop in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Daniel](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/farmos.discourse.group/daniel/32/399_2.png) [@Daniel](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/Daniel)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 5:06am UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/6 "2021-03-30T05:06:37Z")
Thanks all. I figured that this is something mstenta had put a lot of thought into already. ---
**Author:** ![brunocacao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@brunocacao](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/brunocacao)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/7 "2021-03-30T18:47:59Z")
Fully agree that it would be fantastic to have a book keeping module integrated. I’ll have a look at Gnu cash, thanks for the tip As I was also looking at relevant options for farm book keeping, I also found this useful review (but haven’t reached the stage of accrual testing, just read pros/cos), which might also be of interest to others? > **[7 Best Farm Accounting Software 2020](https://fitsmallbusiness.com/best-farm-accounting-software/)** > > We look at a mix of online and desktop software created specifically for farming and ranching, as well as the top general accounting packages to find the best software for your farm. While QuickBooks is often an excellent choice for farmers and... (But intégration of GnuCash (or other) directly into FarmOS would of course be the ideal scenario…) ---
**Author:** ![rafaeltcc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3bc359/32.png) [@rafaeltcc](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/rafaeltcc)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/8 "2022-01-25T13:50:16Z")
Hi, any new ideas on integrating Gnucash with farmos? Would it be feasable to import in farmos as logs transactions from gnucash ? For example, I record in gnucash everytime a car is fueled, or every time it needs repair. Does it make sense to try to save this info in Farmos without having to type twice? ---
**Author:** ![brunocacao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@brunocacao](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/brunocacao)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/9 "2022-02-12T15:39:20Z")
Hi @rafaeltcc Sorry, haven’t made any progress on this, I don’t know yet. But also interested in any recommendations from other! ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Piestrak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/farmos.discourse.group/jeff_piestrak/32/1188_2.png) [@Jeff\_Piestrak](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/Jeff_Piestrak)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/10 "2023-03-15T17:10:58Z")
Just here to say I too would be very interested in (and willing to pay for) some sort of accounting software integration possibilities. This would in fact be a great time to explore this, as many farmers I know are looking for alternatives to Quickbooks, now that they’re forced to pay exorbitant yearly SaaS fees. And for a cloud based service that presents challenges to those without consistently reliable internet… The combined capabilities of farmOS and those features would almost sell itself. ---
**Author:** ![graffte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@graffte](https://farmos.discourse.group/u/graffte)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 11:02am UTC](https://farmos.discourse.group/t/financial-accounting-software-to-pair-with-farmos/716/11 "2023-03-23T11:02:09Z")
I’m also in process of finding a farm oriented accounting/book keeping solution. PCmars came recommended by some other farmers I know. Just passing on the reference. No direct experience in this area yet. As you say, still reading pros and cons. > **[PcMars - The Farmer Friendly, Farm Accounting Software](https://pcmars.com/about/)** > > PcMars Farm Accounting Software was built by farmers, for farmers. It has many features such as chart of accounts, payroll, transactions, and much more...